Too bad Etnies SUCK for riding. The grip on the soles shreds to bits on metal pedals in no time. I had a pair last year which only lasted 2 months before having huge holes in the soles where my feet contact the pedals, and next to no grip left. Not good enough for a shoe that cost over $100. If they can get the soles right for riding and stiff enough in a nice traditional, bulky skate shoe, I'll buy them again. And Bring back all suede skate shoes! Shiny leather/vinyl shoes look horrible